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One issue that deserves an airing is the ease with which anyone can drive off the A83 for miles into remote forest areas, in all probability unseen by anyone; this seems to have become easier over the years, with forest haul roads that were once gated and locked now open to all and sundry. With the steady increase in timber extraction leading to more and more hgv traffic locked gates presumably became more and more of a hindrance, but at what price ‘free access’?
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Free access is a great asset to all who enjoy outdoor activities, although thankfully for most people that doesn’t extend to disposing of bodies. I trust, Robert, that you aren’t suggesting that preventing free access to the many would have deterred the few (or in this case, the one) from criminal activity?
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By ‘free access’ I was thinking of freedom to drive into the forest; freedom to walk and cycle is enshrined in the law as far as I’m aware – except, perhaps, where there are health & safety issues due to timber harvesting operations. The only route in this area that I know is promoted for driving through seems to be between Auchindrain and LochAweside.
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To just make it perfectly clear, beyond any doubt, I do think that stopping vehicular access to the forest would remove a huge area at obvious risk of use for dumping evidence of criminal activity ‘out of sight’. This would not be the first murder victim hidden in Argyll – it happened at Crossaig, in Kintyre, some decades ago.
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It also happened at Loch Arail, just off the B8024, a couple of year’s ago, but no-one suggested closing the road to vehicular access after that.
Having said that, the Kilberry road is so potholed that the council’s neglect could be construed as a criminal act in itself.
Seriously though, if Suzanne Pilley has been murdered, I suspect it didn’t happen just because her murderer knew he had access to a forestry road in Argyll.
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Loch Arail is a different scenario, that could apply to any remote rural road. My concern is that wide open access to a large network of remote forest tracks adjoining a trunk road – while maybe unlikely to make the difference to a decision to murder someone – is quite clearly an extremely convenient route to concealing the evidence of very serious crime for what could be a very long time. I once found something – by the appalling smell – concealed off a forest track in Mid Argyll. It turned out not to be human, but I’d much rather never ever find myself in that situation again, and while gating forest roads wouldn’t affect anyone’s ‘freedom to roam’ it would very likely prevent abuse of that freedom, and make concealing a murder that much more difficult.
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Your argument is floundering Robert, Loch Arail is not a different scenario- a murder was committed in London and the body driven to a remote location where it was successfully concealed for a period of time. In fact, the murderer would have driven past Argyll Forest on his way to Loch Arail (perhaps the gate was locked?).
While we’re about it, let’s put a ban on paving slabs to prevent another Fred and Rosemary West situation.
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My argument is specifically about open vehicular access to vast areas of forest deserving questioning in the light of the current murder investigation, and from this point of view I think that comparison with dumping a body off a public road is not relevent. Any such incident is obviously horrible, but public roads aren’t manageable in the way that forestry roads are, and the latter tend to be far more ‘out of sight’ than public roads. I’m not sure why you seem to be objecting to what I’ve been saying – if it’s a question of disabled people being unable to access forests except in a car then surely it wouldn’t be difficult to ensure that they did have access, without leaving forests wide open to anyone as they tend to be at present.
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Positive discrimination in favour of disabled murderers then?
Rather than keep this thread going, I’ll end by saying my only objection is the suggestion that we introduce a restriction on liberty simply because there is a possibility, and it is only speculation remember, that Suzanne Pilley’s body has been disposed of in Argyll Forest.
Enjoy your weekend.
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According to rumours circulating in Lochgilphead this morning the speculation might be over, but it’s up to the police to announce if anything has been found.
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