Comment posted Council Elections: The count by newsroom.
We will publish an article on some of these issues later this evening.
The election is also not fully over yet. The Dunoon contest had to be postponed because of the recent death of Councillor Alister McAlistrer, who was due to stabnd in Dunoon.
That vote is being held on Thursday 10th May and Dick Walsh is one of the candidates. The overall picture will not be clear until that ward election is completed.
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- Sorry Paula. That is flatly incorrect and you cannot therefore have any evidence for it whatsoever.
In our entire lifespan we have blocked fewer than 10 comments – and that’s allowing for memory loss. They have been blocked because they were fully actionable, scatological or smearing for political advantage.
We have also banned one person permanently because he persisted in clear libel in what was clearly a personal obsession that had nothing to do with anyone else.
We sin-binned another for a period for an instance of outrageously poisonous manipulation.
If anything, we should arguably have blocked a lot more comments, not in our own interests – it is patently obvious that we let anyone say what they like about us – but to offer more protection to some individuals than we have done.
We have perhaps been overly tolerant in such cases because we prefer contributors to self-edit in the interests of observing a basic standard of civility and we believe that most people will do so.
- Thank you. It can, of course, be added at any time.
- All that we can think of here is that any comment you are aware of as unpublished may have been written without the ‘Post comment’ button being properly activated.
Two of us have been sharing the monitoring of comments over the life of this article and neither of us has blocked a single comment – something we have almost never had to do.
- Simon – just lose the blinkers and read what’s being said. There was no suggestion that there is anything wrong with ‘urban based’ anythings.
This was a serious response to your comment. It’s important to try the ‘what ifs?’ What if this is a serious matter and not a squib?
If it wasn’t a serious point but merely another squib through our letter box, then there is no use trying to engage. Email your address and we’ll send you a box of Bengal matches to play with.
- And we don’t bother so much here about the state Iraq has been left in by our illegal intervention.
It’s a matter of scale, Simon but it’s the same thing.
We have all to try to understand the condition of the other.
If one is a townie or a teuchter – to use the pejoratives for both – one cannot ‘know’ what it is to be the other; but one can ask, discover and intuit.
The problem with the school closures was driven, in part, by the phenomenon you identify: urban-based councillors adopting a position on rurality with no experience or understanding of rural communities, the way they work and they way they can fail.
It was the complacent assumption that a position of ignorance was somehow a qualification for superior wisdom that was the can of petrol in this inflammation.
In this case, as you rightly say, the people of Helensburgh didn’t and don’t think rural schools lke Luss and Kilcreggan matter much. Campbeltown cared as much for Southend; Oban for Barcaldine; Rothesay for North Bute; and Dunoon for Toward.
Why should they. It’s not their experience.
But that cannot be the basis for deciding, uninformed, on other people’s lives – or for ganging up on them.
Yet each of these places unknown to townsfolk is a rich and individual culture, a living organism that keeps alive much of the country. If these places die, then alternative means and values for living die too.
It’s not straightforward but it matters.
Recent comments by newsroom
- And the 2014 Kilberry Scarecrow winners are…
Apologies. We must have missed the Thorley family one. We saw only one Clyde.
If you have a photograph of the prizewinning Clyde and would email it to us at: email@example.com we wold be delighted to publish the Thorley creation.
- Better Together still clueless – and about to do more harm
Nothing could ever persuade me to support one of the most irresponsible, deceiving and divisive campaigns I had imagined possible in the developed world in the 21st century.
This doesn’t mean that I or For Argyll would therefore talk up the undeserving opposing campaign – which is lazy, complacent, unfocused, tedious, unexciting, internally riven, leaderless, directionless and pointless.
The only fun has been the opportunist Northern and Western Isles seizing the chance to negotiate for greater devolution for themselves, whatever the outcome of the referendum.
I will personally vote for Scotland to stay in the Union, because I have come to believe that this is the best thing for Scotland – and for the union – not just the safest option but the one with the longest legs for the future.
What I then want to see is Scotland taking the United Kingdom by the scruff of its moribund neck and leading a root and branch reform of the shape and operation of the politics of a union too important and too valuable to let go; but that needs to work very differently to be in a position to develop and implement strategic and sustained economic development that never loses sight of social justice.
Pipe dreaming, of course – but no one should ever settle for an obviously unachievable sales pitch in the hope that it will all turn out OK in the end. It won’t.
Why have the intelligence that distinguishes us from other species – and choose to neuter it?
Today’s world is not a place for narrow parochial nationalism unable to tolerate difference. It has been disturbing to see the attitudes and practices that have emerged in this campaign – and on the nationalist side – to silence, to bully and to punish those who genuinely think differently – as they are democratically entitled to do.
I confess to noticing myself yesterday editing to protect the interests of a business whose scarecrow entry in the Kilberry festival [for God's sake] – was likely to bring the cybergnat stingers from all over the place on their heads. So I didn’t mention the entry or the business or display the photograph of it that I had taken. We are not a free society at the moment and I genuinely worry how much worse it will get if we vote ‘Yes’ and this mindset rules the roost.
- Indy and the Monarchy
The EU has a lot to answer for in the escalation of the crisis in Ukraine – and, at root, much of this responsibility lies with the UK and the helpless patsy Gordon Brown pushed to have wildly overpromoted to the level of the EU’s first Foreign Affairs Minister.
The territorial games that the EU has played with Ukraine, in offering seductions, has given them reason to imagine that they may do less than negotiate with Russia – where there are indisputably serious issues with large ethnic Russian communities in eastern Ukraine who do not appear to be treated equitably – and that thier new friends will come to their aid if necessary.
If Ukraine imagines that any one of the western states busily stoking anti-Russian international opinion, they will find themselves out on a limb with absolutely none of these states coming to their aid. Such an action is easily capable of tipping the world into conflict the like of which we have not seen – for what?
We’ll be lucky if a cold war is the worst that emerges from the actions of the current clutch of inexperienced irresponsibles – and that includes John Kerry and William Hague.
- Indy and the Monarchy
Speaking personally, it’s hard to disagree with this.
- Clyde RIver ferry: Business Scotland interview with CalMac’s Martin Dorchester
Bit of a ‘Doh’ moment. Confess to having forgotten that it’s an amphibian simply because of knowing it only as taking off and landing on the water.
Being on the tarmac at Glasgow would make it a very seductive experience for both golf and scenery packages.
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