Comments on: Hague in Helensburgh http://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:59:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Steve Sanderhamhttp://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-45158 Steve Sanderham Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:51:25 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-45158 I'm glad that the Tories will consider whether replacing Trident nuclear weapons represents value for money. However, I think they will find that by any objective standard the £97 billion cost of replacing Trident could be better used elsewhere in the security budget. Modern security threats - such as climate change, fundamentalism, and cyberwarfare - cannot be addressed by nuclear weapons. Trident was a Cold War weapons which has outlived its purpose. The proof of this is that no politician has been able to explain what its military purpose would be - we are told that we need it as an 'insurance policy' against vague future uncertainties. Elsewhere, the defence budget is facing big cuts. Any politician who wants to spend £97 billion on vague future uncertainties while ignoring clear and present current threats is gambling irresponsibly with national security. I’m glad that the Tories will consider whether replacing Trident nuclear weapons represents value for money. However, I think they will find that by any objective standard the £97 billion cost of replacing Trident could be better used elsewhere in the security budget.

Modern security threats – such as climate change, fundamentalism, and cyberwarfare – cannot be addressed by nuclear weapons. Trident was a Cold War weapons which has outlived its purpose. The proof of this is that no politician has been able to explain what its military purpose would be – we are told that we need it as an ‘insurance policy’ against vague future uncertainties.

Elsewhere, the defence budget is facing big cuts. Any politician who wants to spend £97 billion on vague future uncertainties while ignoring clear and present current threats is gambling irresponsibly with national security.

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]]> By: JPJ2http://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44723 JPJ2 Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:59:30 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44723 kintyre 1 says "these two parties (SNP & Sinn Fein) remain unable to convince the majority of their viewpoint even when they resort to bombing , murder , intimidation , smearing and other hate filled poisonous methods". A touch OTT my unionist friend. I am personally very proud of the fact that not a single person has died for or against the cause of Scottish independence in the whole of the 20th century or the 21st century to date. Do restrain from such inappropriate abuse. . kintyre 1 says
“these two parties (SNP & Sinn Fein) remain unable to convince the majority of their viewpoint even when they resort to bombing , murder , intimidation , smearing and other hate filled poisonous methods”.

A touch OTT my unionist friend. I am personally very proud of the fact that not a single person has died for or against the cause of Scottish independence in the whole of the 20th century or the 21st century to date. Do restrain from such inappropriate abuse.

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]]> By: Carol-Anne Taylorhttp://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44721 Carol-Anne Taylor Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:47:10 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44721 Gary Mulvaney has piqued the interest of young people in Argyll & Bute by making politics relevant to them. By asking the right questions he has found issues that has personal significance to them. How refreshing is it to see local youth involved in political campaigning? In light of the harsh economic climate, young voters now see this election as a new beginning and they want to be part of something historic. Politics need fresh new voices to stand up and make a difference and with many people voting for the first time they see that they are finally part of the voice of change. Anyone who can inspire young people's political awareness deserves applause. Gary Mulvaney has piqued the interest of young people in Argyll & Bute by making politics relevant to them. By asking the right questions he has found issues that has personal significance to them. How refreshing is it to see local youth involved in political campaigning? In light of the harsh economic climate, young voters now see this election as a new beginning and they want to be part of something historic. Politics need fresh new voices to stand up and make a difference and with many people voting for the first time they see that they are finally part of the voice of change. Anyone who can inspire young people’s political awareness deserves applause.

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]]> By: kintyre1http://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44626 kintyre1 Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:03:34 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44626 twist and distort all you like the facts are that the vast majority of people in Scotland , Northern Ireland , Wales and England have no wish to see the UK broken up . Only in Scotland (SNP) and Northern Ireland (Sinn Fein) are there parties dedicated to the dismantling of the United Kingdom . Even the welsh nationalist party do not want a full break from the rest of the UK . Fortunately , these two parties (SNP & Sinn Fein) remain unable to convince the majority of their viewpoint even when they resort to bombing , murder , intimidation , smearing and other hate filled poisonous methods . SNP MPs if there are any will continue to be irrelevant on lookers at Westminster . twist and distort all you like the facts are that the vast majority of people in Scotland , Northern Ireland , Wales and England have no wish to see the UK broken up .
Only in Scotland (SNP) and Northern Ireland (Sinn Fein) are there parties dedicated to the dismantling of the United Kingdom . Even the welsh nationalist party do not want a full break from the rest of the UK .
Fortunately , these two parties (SNP & Sinn Fein) remain unable to convince the majority of their viewpoint even when they resort to bombing , murder , intimidation , smearing and other hate filled poisonous methods .
SNP MPs if there are any will continue to be irrelevant on lookers at Westminster .

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]]> By: John Patrickhttp://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44444 John Patrick Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:26:08 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44444 The West Lothian question remains unanswered since it was first posed on 14 November 1977. For how long will English constituencies and English Honourable members tolerate... at least 119 Honourable Members from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland exercising an important, and probably often decisive, effect on English politics while they themselves have no say in the same matters in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland? In July 1999, the then-Conservative leader William Hague said that "English MPs should have exclusive say over English laws... People will become increasingly resentful that decisions are being made in England by people from other parts of the UK on matters that English people did not have a say on elsewhere... I think it is a dangerous thing to allow resentment to build up in a country. We have got to make the rules fair now." William Hague is truly a Nationalist at heart, how about those apples Kintyre1. There should be indeed be home rule for England and for Scotland. The SNP need to gain control of the Scottish purse strings and under the current rules that means returning as many SNP MP’s to Westminster. Only then can the SNP demonstrate that it has an engine under its bonnet. As things stand at the moment it is a futile exercise with the lunch money and one hand tied behind your back. The West Lothian question remains unanswered since it was first posed on 14 November 1977.

For how long will English constituencies and English Honourable members tolerate… at least 119 Honourable Members from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland exercising an important, and probably often decisive, effect on English politics while they themselves have no say in the same matters in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?

In July 1999, the then-Conservative leader William Hague said that “English MPs should have exclusive say over English laws… People will become increasingly resentful that decisions are being made in England by people from other parts of the UK on matters that English people did not have a say on elsewhere… I think it is a dangerous thing to allow resentment to build up in a country. We have got to make the rules fair now.” William Hague is truly a Nationalist at heart, how about those apples Kintyre1.

There should be indeed be home rule for England and for Scotland. The SNP need to gain control of the Scottish purse strings and under the current rules that means returning as many SNP MP’s to Westminster. Only then can the SNP demonstrate that it has an engine under its bonnet. As things stand at the moment it is a futile exercise with the lunch money and one hand tied behind your back.

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]]> By: stgeorgeiscross (Hotspur)http://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44326 stgeorgeiscross (Hotspur) Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:38:46 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44326 <strong>Twitter Comment</strong> <a href="http://twitter.com/stgeorgeiscross" title="Twitter Comment" rel="nofollow"> <div class="ccimg1" title="stgeorgeiscross (Hotspur)" style="float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;background:url(http://forargyll.com/wp-content/plugins/chatcatcher/picbg.jpg) no-repeat top;cursor:hand;"> </div> <div class="ccimg2" title="stgeorgeiscross (Hotspur)" style="float:left;margin-left:-70px;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;background:url(http://purl.org/net/spiurl/stgeorgeiscross) no-repeat top;cursor:hand;"> </div> </a> @GuyAitchison scroll down to the article on England [link to post]<br /><br /> - <a href="http://chatcatcher.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Posted using Chat Catcher</a> Twitter Comment


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]]> By: kintyre1http://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44282 kintyre1 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:26:55 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44282 Pathetic to read the attempts by nationalists to stir up divisions among the people of the UK The electorate will see through your hate filled utterings . Pathetic to read the attempts by nationalists to stir up divisions among the people of the UK
The electorate will see through your hate filled utterings .

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]]> By: Home Rule for Englandhttp://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44259 Home Rule for England Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:43:32 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44259 The Tory's draft UK election manifesto includes the following: "British patients should be among the first in the world to use effective treatments, but under Labour they are among the last. The current system lets Ministers off the hook by blaming decisions on unaccountablebureaucrats in NICE, the agency which approves drugs for the NHS. We will reform the way drug companies are paid for NHS medicines so that any cost-effective treatment can be made available through the NHS, with drug providers paid according to the value of their new treatments". Health is devolved in Scotland and Wales so why mention British patients? Surely the manifesto should say English patients? NICE is not responsible for Scotland, the role being undertaken by the SMC! The Tory’s draft UK election manifesto includes the following:

“British patients should be among the first in the world to use effective treatments, but under Labour they are among the last. The current system lets Ministers off the hook by blaming decisions on unaccountablebureaucrats in NICE, the agency which approves drugs for the NHS. We will reform the way drug companies are paid for NHS medicines so that any cost-effective treatment can be made available through the NHS, with drug providers paid according to the value of their new treatments”.

Health is devolved in Scotland and Wales so why mention British patients? Surely the manifesto should say English patients? NICE is not responsible for Scotland, the role being undertaken by the SMC!

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]]> By: tallyhttp://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44224 tally Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:11:54 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44224 Re England. All the main parties are treating the people of the uk with contempt by refusing to acknowledge devolution. The new National service policy is only for England but they dress it up as a whole of the uk policy. Many in England are complaining about this enormous con trick, but until the media forces politicians to spell out what policies are for whom, we are stuck with a charade. I congratulate the Argyll news for bringing this issue to the forefront in this election. Why does the media back these politicians knowing they are lying? Re England. All the main parties are treating the people of the uk with contempt by refusing to acknowledge devolution. The new National service policy is only for England but they dress it up as a whole of the uk policy. Many in England are complaining about this enormous con trick, but until the media forces politicians to spell out what policies are for whom, we are stuck with a charade. I congratulate the Argyll news for bringing this issue to the forefront in this election. Why does the media back these politicians knowing they are lying?

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]]> By: Dave McEwan Hillhttp://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44176 Dave McEwan Hill Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:08:16 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44176 SNP teams out in the area today and out there tomorrow. Knocking doors, talking to people. Terrific support. SNP teams out in the area today and out there tomorrow. Knocking doors, talking to people. Terrific support.

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]]> By: kintyre1http://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44161 kintyre1 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:05:53 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44161 Voters in Argyll & Bute , like those in every other constituency are voting to choose a government of the UK . William Hague is a first rate politician and it is gratifying that he found time to visit this area and listen to the electorate . Sour grape comments from snp supporters is what we have come to expect from them . After all their difficulties in Helensburgh , I would have thought they would be more thoughtful with their remarks . Voters in Argyll & Bute , like those in every other constituency are voting to choose a government of the UK .
William Hague is a first rate politician and it is gratifying that he found time to visit this area and listen to the electorate .
Sour grape comments from snp supporters is what we have come to expect from them . After all their difficulties in Helensburgh , I would have thought they would be more thoughtful with their remarks .

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]]> By: Dave McEwan Hillhttp://forargyll.com/2010/04/hague-in-helensburgh/#comment-44158 Dave McEwan Hill Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:26:45 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=21713#comment-44158 Sadly the Tory voters of Argyll and Bute won't have the opportunity to vote for William Hague. They've got that other guy -what'isname. 11 constituencies in one day. Was it half an hour each? Sadly the Tory voters of Argyll and Bute won’t have the opportunity to vote for William Hague. They’ve got that other guy -what’isname.

11 constituencies in one day. Was it half an hour each?

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