Comments on: General Election in the offing and the misinformation begins http://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:51:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: kintyre1http://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29675 kintyre1 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:51:55 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29675 nationalists want to destroy the British Royal Navy and replace it with a fleet of off shore patrol boats! the small state the snp admire so much , the republic of ireland , has 8 patrol boats the sort of thing you find in the crinan canal . what an insult to our homeland , to our history , our armed services and our professional armed forces personnel who have fought and died defending our freedom and our liberty . nationalists want to destroy the British Royal Navy and replace it with a fleet of off shore patrol boats!
the small state the snp admire so much , the republic of ireland , has 8 patrol boats the sort of thing you find in the crinan canal .
what an insult to our homeland , to our history , our armed services and our professional armed forces personnel who have fought and died defending our freedom and our liberty .

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]]> By: kintyre1http://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29670 kintyre1 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:34:52 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29670 is writing letters to defend fraudsters the best the snp can do ? is writing letters to defend fraudsters the best the snp can do ?

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]]> By: David McEwan Hillhttp://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29620 David McEwan Hill Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:47:26 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29620 Is that the best you can do? Name us any small country with a coastline that doesn't have a functioning navy. As I said - access the SNP Defence Policy then come back with some informed points rather than witless scaremongering. Is that the best you can do?
Name us any small country with a coastline that doesn’t have a functioning navy.

As I said – access the SNP Defence Policy then come back with some informed points rather than witless scaremongering.

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]]> By: kintyre1http://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29618 kintyre1 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:31:56 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29618 no Royal Navy no need for the POl depot no Royal Navy no need for the POl depot

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]]> By: David McEwan Hillhttp://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29607 David McEwan Hill Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:11:14 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29607 kintyre1 To give you a wee hint - you can very easily access the SNP's defence position if you are actually serious. Let's see you do so. Then come back with an informed position on it. kintyre1

To give you a wee hint – you can very easily access the SNP’s defence position if you are actually serious. Let’s see you do so. Then come back with an informed position on it.

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]]> By: David McEwan Hillhttp://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29541 David McEwan Hill Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:21:00 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29541 kintyre1 Any idea of what the SNP's defence policy is by any chance? Didn't think so. kintyre1
Any idea of what the SNP’s defence policy is by any chance?

Didn’t think so.

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]]> By: kintyre1http://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29525 kintyre1 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:02:54 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29525 What effect would the snp's so called defense policies have on the many POL jetty workers in Kintyre ? They'd face the dole queue for sure . it's about time this threat to the workers and the security of our country was highlighted . all power to Gary Mulvaney and any other candidate who exposes the separatist nonsense of the snp and the ill thought out policies parroted by their failed candidate . What effect would the snp’s so called defense policies have on the many POL jetty workers in Kintyre ?
They’d face the dole queue for sure .
it’s about time this threat to the workers and the security of our country was highlighted . all power to Gary Mulvaney and any other candidate who exposes the separatist nonsense of the snp and the ill thought out policies parroted by their failed candidate .

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]]> By: Ron Wilsonhttp://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29521 Ron Wilson Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:47:33 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29521 Mulvaney and his Tory minders have clearly decided to go negative regardless of the facts, in the hope and expectation that mud will stick. Blatant lying for short term votes is the hallmark of a deeply cynical and mendacious electoral machine, concerned not with political values but naked power as an end in itself. So much for skein of 'honesty' that Cameron has been peddling over the past few years. As for Mulvaney, he has exposed himself as a mere cipher of Tory HQ, a marionette who would dance to whatever tune that Cameron called, regardless of Argyll & Bute's interests. This Constituency needs an honest, down to earth & hard working MP, determined to stick up for Argyll & Bute and Scotland as we face £800 million worth of cuts this coming year alone. That man is Mr MacKenzie. Mulvaney and his Tory minders have clearly decided to go negative regardless of the facts, in the hope and expectation that mud will stick.

Blatant lying for short term votes is the hallmark of a deeply cynical and mendacious electoral machine, concerned not with political values but naked power as an end in itself. So much for skein of ‘honesty’ that Cameron has been peddling over the past few years.

As for Mulvaney, he has exposed himself as a mere cipher of Tory HQ, a marionette who would dance to whatever tune that Cameron called, regardless of Argyll & Bute’s interests.

This Constituency needs an honest, down to earth & hard working MP, determined to stick up for Argyll & Bute and Scotland as we face £800 million worth of cuts this coming year alone. That man is Mr MacKenzie.

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]]> By: David McEwan Hillhttp://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29382 David McEwan Hill Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:24:07 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29382 I think if Gary Mulvaney has actually printed on his leaflet an assertion that the SNP will close the base,when in actual fact the SNP's published policy is to retain and develop the base, he requires to retract that statement publicly. I was with Mike MacKenzie on Saturday when several constituents repeated this untruth and I thought it was as a result of the Jackie Baillie misinformation campaign. Now we know the source. For the record just over 900 people are employed on the base on the Trident programme out of several thousand workers and of the 900 plus a large proportion are not locally recruited. Sadly, I threw Mulvaney's leaflet away after reading very little of it. I think if Gary Mulvaney has actually printed on his leaflet an assertion that the SNP will close the base,when in actual fact the SNP’s published policy is to retain and develop the base, he requires to retract that statement publicly.
I was with Mike MacKenzie on Saturday when several constituents repeated this untruth and I thought it was as a result of the Jackie Baillie misinformation campaign. Now we know the source. For the record just over 900 people are employed on the base on the Trident programme out of several thousand workers and of the 900 plus a large proportion are not locally recruited. Sadly, I threw Mulvaney’s leaflet away after reading very little of it.

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]]> By: Richard Trailhttp://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29364 Richard Trail Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:32:34 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29364 The idea that Faslane would be closed when Scotland becomes independent is plainly nonsense. A small independent country strategically placed in the North Atlantic would certainly have its own navy. We have a long coastline, we have a fishing industry to protect, we are strategically placed in the north Atlantic to guard trade routes between Europe and America. It would not be a large navy. We can get an idea of the size by comparing it with other countries in North Europe like Denmark and Sweden. Faslane would be the logical main base for the Scottish navy with a secondary base at Rosyth. There would inevitably be a deal done to keep the Royal Navy submarine base as it is after a political settlement is reached. We would want the Trident missiles removed from Scottish soil as soon as it can be practically arranged. But for other units of the Royal Navy to use facilities at Faslane for many years after independence seems to be a perfectly reasonable policy to me. A gradual decline in the workforce over many years is what I would consider a fair possibility. It would not descend into closure, So the opposition claims that the SNP want to close Faslane are scaremongering. It is coupled with the unseemly hypocrisy of fighting to preserve jobs at Faslane by our sitting MP while his party holds a policy of nuclear disarmament. The idea that Faslane would be closed when Scotland becomes independent is plainly nonsense. A small independent country strategically placed in the North Atlantic would certainly have its own navy. We have a long coastline, we have a fishing industry to protect, we are strategically placed in the north Atlantic to guard trade routes between Europe and America. It would not be a large navy. We can get an idea of the size by comparing it with other countries in North Europe like Denmark and Sweden.

Faslane would be the logical main base for the Scottish navy with a secondary base at Rosyth. There would inevitably be a deal done to keep the Royal Navy submarine base as it is after a political settlement is reached. We would want the Trident missiles removed from Scottish soil as soon as it can be practically arranged. But for other units of the Royal Navy to use facilities at Faslane for many years after independence seems to be a perfectly reasonable policy to me.

A gradual decline in the workforce over many years is what I would consider a fair possibility. It would not descend into closure, So the opposition claims that the SNP want to close Faslane are scaremongering. It is coupled with the unseemly hypocrisy of fighting to preserve jobs at Faslane by our sitting MP while his party holds a policy of nuclear disarmament.

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]]> By: macblearhttp://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29331 macblear Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:51:09 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29331 Perhaps For Argyll could also ask Mr Mulvaney why he is standing as an Argyll candidate but persists in getting his leaflets printed in Glasgow? Surely he should support Argyll printers? Perhaps For Argyll could also ask Mr Mulvaney why he is standing as an Argyll candidate but persists in getting his leaflets printed in Glasgow? Surely he should support Argyll printers?

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]]> By: newsroomhttp://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29287 newsroom Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:38:33 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29287 For Dorothy: This is the value of participatory online democracy - the evidence always gets out. For Dorothy: This is the value of participatory online democracy – the evidence always gets out.

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]]> By: Ken MacCollhttp://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29285 Ken MacColl Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:29:35 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29285 You will not get it, Dorothy. I have tried on several occasions but answers do not emerge. I asked Alan Reid why he was trailing a "graph" in his latest information leaflet with the result of the last general election back in 2005 - the last decent result that the Liberal Democrats had acheived in this constituency but light years away from the realities of today. He replied to me in lofty tones that it was only relevant to compare "like with like" in such instances. Why then I asked innocently had he used the same 2005 election graph when he was canvassing on behalf of George Lyon in the Euro Election last summer? Then it all went quiet. You will not get it, Dorothy.

I have tried on several occasions but answers do not emerge.

I asked Alan Reid why he was trailing a “graph” in his latest information leaflet with the result of the last general election back in 2005 – the last decent result that the Liberal Democrats had acheived in this constituency but light years away from the realities of today.

He replied to me in lofty tones that it was only relevant to compare “like with like” in such instances. Why then I asked innocently had he used the same 2005 election graph when he was canvassing on behalf of George Lyon in the Euro Election last summer?

Then it all went quiet.

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]]> By: Dorothy Macdonaldhttp://forargyll.com/2010/02/general-election-in-the-offing-and-the-misinformation-begins/#comment-29266 Dorothy Macdonald Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:26:03 +0000 http://forargyll.com/?p=19848#comment-29266 Perhaps 'For Argyll' will ask Gary Mulvaney why he has published the 'SNP will close Faslane' lie in his recent large leaflet. I cannot believe that he genuinely believes this to be the case but would be most interested in his explanation! Many Thanks Perhaps ‘For Argyll’ will ask Gary Mulvaney why he has published the ‘SNP will close Faslane’ lie in his recent large leaflet. I cannot believe that he genuinely believes this to be the case but would be most interested in his explanation! Many Thanks

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